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Old 07-16-2008, 03:28 PM
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alright guys, I think I've brought this up before but not to much was said about it. I have been trying to do as much research as possible on the running of WMO in our trucks, Cummins actually does this in a small percentage in larger engines, a small amount of the oil from the sump is filtered into the fuel a recycle stage if you will, then machanics just add oil so eventually all the oil will end up being burned and there is no need to change oil just filters, theres actually a write up on the cummins website about this. Some have said Cummins allows up to 5% WMO, not just bio diesel but specifically WMO. So I'm looking into a setup with a Harbor Freight 1" clearwater pump/perma cool fuel/water seperator filtering down to 2 microns, possibly finishing off with a 1 micron bag (which will take forever) When I get off this deployement I'm going to start, maybe get a thread going with my progress so all can see, I'll start off light with a 5% see if it clogs filters, it shouldn't since I only have 1500 miles on my truck there shouldn't be nasty crud in there. Then maybe after a tankfull I'll up it to 10, 20 till I get to 30% I think that would be a reasonable amount, that will at least make a dent in the money factor, I realize all the DPF issues we already have and soot build up problems, but hopefully it works well enough to be worth it. Any advice or imput?
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Never heard of this. Guess I need to go to the Cummins site and read up on it.
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Here is a cut out from the article, web address is at the bottom, they use this on big rig systems, but if the big rigs will burn it our system should be able to burn it as well, I'll look for the statement that says they allow up to 5% WMO as a fuel.



CENTINELTM... Extends Everything.

CENTINEL Advanced Engine Oil Management System extends oil change intervals to 525,000 miles (844,906 km) and oil filter changes to 75,000 miles (120,701 km) for heavy-duty onhighway applications! For industrial applications, oil changes are extended to 4,000 hours and oil filter intervals are increased to 1,000 hours.

Extra Protection. Every Cycle.

At duty-cycle-dependent intervals, CENTINEL removes a small amount of used oil out of the lubrication system and sends it to your fuel tank. The used oil blends with the fuel and is burned during combustion. Simultaneously, CENTINEL adds the same amount of new oil from a makeup tank into your engine. This constantly replenishes oil additives, improving oil quality over the life of your engine. There is also a "Burn-Only" version of CENTINEL that eliminates the reserve oil tank and oil makeup feature. Burn-Only CENTINEL is ideal for those who manage maintenance daily and have weight-sensitive applications.

Heavy-Duty Savings. Every Kind Of Duty.

CENTINEL works over the road, on the water, in power generation and in the mining pits. Because it is available as an original engine option and in most cases as an aftermarket kit, Cummins owners with the following engines can benefit from CENTINEL: heavy-duty engines (L10, M11, N14, ISX and ISM) or high-horsepower industrial engines (QSX15, K19, QSK19, QST30, K38, QSK45, K50, QSK50, QSK60 and QSK78).

Features And Benefits.



Optimized Oil Management - Unlike time-based systems that replace oil at set intervals, CENTINEL's duty-based cycle control valve replaces oil as required. Your oil quality is stabilized at a 1:1 removal and replenishment rate
Approved Performance - CENTINEL is the only oil management system to be EPA-certified for Tier 2
Reduced Maintenance Costs
Reduced Waste Handling and Disposal Costs
Enhanced Engine Protection - Continuous replenishment of new oil into the lubrication system
Advanced Self-Monitoring Controls - CENTINEL monitors makeup tank level and oil control valve operation, and alerts the operator if any abnormal condition is detected
Every Confidence. Comprehensive CENTINEL Coverage.

CENTINEL comes with a 2-year/250,000-mile (402,336 km) on-highway or 1-year/3,600-hour off-highway warranty. For more information, see your local Cummins dealer/distributor. Or call us at 1-800-DIESELS (1-800-343-7357).

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